Enough weight

[Tony100]

Rite ive been speeking to the wise guru mr chops....

cut a long storie short....... i have a merc c class which im juicing..... i want it to stand on 3 wheels.

im not sure if theres enough weight in the boot to compensate the weight of the engine if you get me.......chop's theory of :

 put all batts and pumps in the boot

jack front rear...... then rear left see which was the car falls?? ive tried this and it didnt do much just balanced so to speek..... am i doing something wrong??

any other ideas guys 

[fatdaddy]

lift diagonally opposite corners as far as you can with the other two fully retracted. if it doesn't do a 3 you don't have enough weight or don't have enough wheel travel.................................see if you can lift it into a 3 by pulling under a front arch by hand. if you can then more weight will sort it. if you cant it wont 3 without a rebuild

[voicey]

did you go for coil under on the back, or straight mounted rams with accs? i think coils might hinder a standing 3.

[fatdaddy]

did you go for coil under on the back, or straight mounted rams with accs? i think coils might hinder a standing 3.

bang on.............

[Chops]

did you go for coil under on the back, or straight mounted rams with accs? i think coils might hinder a standing 3.

Good one Rich, I'd explained it the same as Iains post but I'd forgotten about his going for coil-under

[Tony100]

did you go for coil under on the back, or straight mounted rams with accs? i think coils might hinder a standing 3.

i cant find anyone that would supply me with stright replacment for my shocks.. so i had to go coil under

[fatdaddy]

you need to get them made to suit. easy work for any fabricator really BUT you need to provide accurate spec and sizes.
Cyl would have replica of shock top pin mount but with 12mm HT pin with Range Rover raduis arm bushes as mounts.
Bottom needs a 12mm Rose joint.  Bottom mount is a plate welded into the bottom coil pocket with a clearance hole and clevis mount under it that the Rose bolts to.
That all gives you the full travel needed........get the length wrong and you WILL pull the drive shaft apart on full lift!

[Tony100]

This is whats ive got.......




6's front and 8s for the rear? brand new from rayvern he said and assured me they ont pull drive shafts out!

[Tony100]

change of plan.......... looks like im guna have to get rears custom made as the coil under theory aint guna work i will have to run like  1 coil on the spring to get it low!! lovley more money i cant afford!!

[voicey]

8 inch on the rear would be straining the driveshafts anyway bro

[Tony100]

Greeat........... this is going from bad to worse..!!

[Tony100]

rite...... ive got the setup that was on the ibiza......

thease were on the rear.



on full lock they are 22" from the top of the ram (not the top of thread) and collapse they are 13 or something.....low enough for me!

thease worked 100% with no leeks on the ibiza think i could use thease guys?

[fatdaddy]

you HAVE to be accurate on a MB.
onlt way to get it right is
1 remove coils and cocks
2 jack it up till the suspension arm rests on the hook. measure from under the top mount to the coil seat.
3 lower it and measure the same points
4 get your bushes and rose joint
5 work out the length you can have that wont push the arm past the hook point at full lift.
6 this will determine the fully closed length depending on cyl design.
7  then you have to alter the bottom mount point to accomodate the closed length AND give you full drop.

[Tony100]

Ok ill have a look into all of that tommorow and take sum measurements

Thease rams in the above picture are smaller than a standad MB damper which is half the job right? being smaller means on full lock im not guna pull and shafts?

[fatdaddy]

dont assume that. they can be half the length and if you mount them wrong they can still pull the shatfs.

dont cut corners and hope, follow all the steps and be sure then fit the cyls and move through the full travel by hand to check for sure before connecting up the fluid